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Colt Blackhawk
Amarrian Vengeance
Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:02:00 -
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Andre Vauban wrote:Here is how you "fix" the link problem. If any character on a killmail received bonuses from an active link module, then the character/ship providing those links shows up on the killmail as well (if no damage was done, then module is one of the link modules and 0 damage). Problem solved...
THIS.
+1
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Colt Blackhawk
Amarrian Vengeance
Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.02.25 10:05:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:This idea has probably been posted somewhere already but I'm lazy.
1) Make link range 1 AU
2) GIve massive sig bloom penalty on link activation
So:
- Ships using links always show up on 'short scan' while you're fighting - you get a rough idea of what you're up against
- Parking alt on station or just outside POS shields isn't really viable anymore
- Can be probed down easily
- You stop worrying about ECCMing your booster, so you can make it tankier/more agile whatever
So links remain powerful but become more vulnerable and need a bit more active management. Much less vulnerable than being on-grid though.
Opens up some new gameplay:
- If in a fleet, trying to get the other fleet's booster out of the equation (killing it, scaring it off, trying to engage enemy fleet in another location, ...) becomes a common tactic - doesn't mean it's always worth doing though. Nor will everyone and their mom run around with a 200tf expanded probe launcher all the time. You just get more tactical options
- If in small gang, you can have one guy bait the 'boosted solo pilot' into activating his links while the rest of the gang tries to catch the booster; if booster runs/cloaks the bait guy may then try to solo the pilot without his links, etc. etc.
- Using a booster alt requires some more skill - you need to move it close to the battle, make safesposts on the fly, ...
- You can bait with a booster
- ...
Reasonable compromise maybe?
Nope.
Won-Št change that links are a solo killer.
Won-Št change farming "solo" killmails vs pilots without links.
Will make defense too easy in comparison to offense.
Won-Št change that whole corps quit eve because "oh okay they have links and we haven-Št so guys stay docked, no pvp today".
Won-Št change that links are op like hell.
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Colt Blackhawk
Amarrian Vengeance
Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.02.25 12:10:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Colt Blackhawk wrote:Nope.
Won-Št change that links are a solo killer.
Won-Št change farming "solo" killmails vs pilots without links.
Will make defense too easy in comparison to offense.
Won-Št change that whole corps quit eve because "oh okay they have links and we haven-Št so guys stay docked, no pvp today".
Won-Št change that links are op like hell. Exactly. The idea was to make link gameplay more interesting, not to eliminate it. Also, I'm pretty sure a whole corp that would even consider the idea of staying docked, let alone quitting EVE altogether (really???) just because of not having links (that are trainable to a decent level in what, 2-3 months max?) would probably quit EVE for some other reason anyway.
You are prolly an ignorant nullbear. I know 80+ corps that don-Št exist any more because they weren-Št able to have 24/7 links today what is prolly mandatory.
There are even "don-Št go" systems in eve you shouldn-Št go to if you don-Št have minimum 2 links. 2 links and 3b pod would be better. But yeah... ourgankers want their links.
Killing unlinked frig with linked frig is NOT pvp. It is ganking. You could join a highsec ganking corp. Would be the same.
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Colt Blackhawk
Amarrian Vengeance
Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.03.03 09:05:00 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Complaining about links in lowsec is really top-notch. When are implants scheduled for dispute, like slaves?
It's one thing to fly with an OGB that can easily be probed down and killed, or to fly with a pirate-imp'ed pod that no one can ever touch.
BLAH.
You know what? You don-Št even need to probe ogb down. They mostly sit on station and if you agress them you will get blobbed to hell (+station guns, what means that you need to reship to kill it) or the ogb docks and the pilot belonging to it too because he has no clue how to fight without or even funnier: His ship fit would never wok without ogb.
Implants on th other side are fine. Pods are very vulnerable. Ask Santo Trafficante :D
Plus instalock dessies in a fight or intys are pods worst nightmare.
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Colt Blackhawk
Dissident Aggressors
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2014.03.25 10:55:00 -
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Well.
ONE REALLY IMPORTANT ARGUMENT.
Links make CCPs job to balance out ships hard if even impossible.
Why?
Okay lets say you want to Balance ship A. You have not only to take a look how it performs with standard point, tank, dps but also how it performs in fleet etc.
Now you need to balance same ship A for 0.0 and skip the point. Maybe it performs too good now.
And now you have to balance same ship again and again if it has links. There are whole corps flying already with ship fits that would be impossible to fly effectively without links.
This makes CCPs job almost impossible.
Example? Just take the condor. It is quite well balanced. You can always try to loop the kitey condor etc.
Now give it links and you have an overkilling machine. Same with interceptors. Awesome small speed with awesome small sig radius making whole weapon system like drones and light missiles useless.
Tripledamp hookbills? Usually hard to fly because of lack of speed etc. But with links a non issue.
Too many variables for CCPs employees to balance ships. Far too many.
Now all the crybabies who don-Št know how to undock without 2 links for "solo" pvp you are welcome to flame me.
But you know I am right.
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